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Matt

Interesting article, this is a great topic to debate/discuss.

As far as money facts - digital publishing should decrease production costs IF your print product goes away or is replaced by POD (providing your happy with many of the restrictions and quality issues with POD) so I would ask you; what does this XML based solution cost? What are the up front costs and costs of implementation, training, and ingestion of all old assets in various formats?

I would disagree with the assessment of Adobe InDesign. For the money and considering most publishers already own it, have trained staff running it, it IS a REAL, PRACTICAL, solution in comparison with the costs of an XML based solution.

Would love to hear some more money facts and transparency regarding this XML solution, because I do agree that, in theory, XML is ideal.

Look forward to your demos on tackling more design intensive ePubs.

Richard Pipe

I think the costing analysis is a good request. I don't knock InDesign as a tool, only that it creates terminal formats, and does not give a digital strategy.

If the need for tomorrow is streaming HTML5 to apps or browsers, it is going to stop being able to be delivered. The problem with this visionary tomorrow statement is most publishers haven't got their head around ePub, let alone the undefined future.

Our XML solution IGP:FLIP starts at $99.00 per month for the SaaS model. http://www.infogridpacific.com/igp/IGP:FLIP%20Portals/. A full site license is of course considerably more and I can't let that out in public here for obvious reasons.

The one think I have learned about upfront costs and training is that North America is more expensive than, for example, Europe or Asia. There is a different attitude towards "just doing it". I would go so far as to say that change management inertia has become institutionalized in North America. So this ends up being the fuzziest cost area. I of course say it costs nothing, its easy-peasy; you would possibly say a trillion or so!

Thanks for the challenge on money facts. I may ask you for some current costs or examples for real world samples if you are in a position to assist. Typesetting costs vary wildly around the world and by publisher. I know trade novel publishers paying US$8.00 per page for stuff that should cost 1.50 per page... But I am not sure the argument is the design cost really, damn good designers/compositors/editors should be paid appropriately no matter what tool they use, its total cost of ownership and ability for dynamic change in a rapidly self-publishing world.

Our XML solution is transparent. Check out the big concept videos here. http://www.infogridpacific.com/igp/IGP:FLIP%20Portals/Tutorials%20and%20Demos/

All things going well, Simultaneous Design III or IV will be up today or tomorrow to take this discussion forward.

Matt

Thanks for the constructive response Richard.

Good point on HTML5 and positioning for future shifts. Agreed, most publishers are still struggling with ePub, and are hesitant to invest/commit to current format trends.

I think the big struggle for providers of XML solutions for publishing is selling those key points I made (total investment costs, learning curves, implementation).....tough to gauge the learning curve and implementation piece, as this has so much to do with the organization and its ability embrace this type of change/shift, as you point out, it does have a lot to do with attitude.

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